How can urban lighting be designed to flexibly adapt to different uses, provide a sense of safety, minimise environmental impact – and at the same time create a place-based experience that resonates emotionally? This was the focus of a conversation between Ulrike Brandi, internationally active lighting designer, and Professor Dr Thomas Römhild from Wismar University of Applied Sciences. Both share the conviction: dynamism is the key to sustainable and human-centred lighting design.